Cops need to stop being dicks at car shows

"marshknute" (marshknute) 09/25/2017 at 11:54 • Filed to: None

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Shoutout to the Jersey City PD for being straight-up dicks this past weekend to all the supercar owners supporting a cancer research charity. I hope all you pigs get diagnosed with terminal cancer.

And no, nobody was doing burnouts or driving recklessly. Instead, they were driving with the flow of traffic on a deserted road with an artificially low speed limit. Or driving without a front plate, because the manufacturer never designed a front mounting point. Or in one case, two awesome individuals parking their Aventadors in a secluded location so a terminal cancer patient could have a private photoshoot with his dream cars. (note: I’m not the cancer patient, I just helped coordinate the photoshoot for him).

But it was a beautiful sunny day, perfect for some abuse of power. Cue an army of predatory cops discriminating against anyone with a flashy car because they need some ticket revenue. Now those supercar owners won’t attend future events, and the Make A Wish Foundation loses critical donors. Excellent police work, Officer Dickhead.

As a cop, your job is to protect and serve, not bully and extort. If you see someone doing something nice for a cancer patient in a location they shouldn’t be in, the appropriate response is to say, “Excuse me, sir, I realize that you’re doing something nice and not bothering anyone on this deserted-ass gravel road to nowhere, but this is private property and I do need to ask you to exit the premises. Thank you for understanding. Beautiful car. Have a great day.”

A polite, but firm warning that achieves the desired result while instilling trust and respect in the local police force. I guess that’s too much to ask for.

BiTurbo228 - Dr Frankenstein of Spitfires > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 12:03

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It’s circumstances like this that a well-placed tweet actually has some uses...

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 12:10

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If there is a next time, have a bunch of Make-a-Wish banners and stickers in site. If they do hand out tickets, the pictures of that will look great for the PD.

Galileo Humpkins (aka MC Clap Yo Handz) > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/25/2017 at 12:16

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This. And make sure the PD knows that it’s not just a car show to show off, that it’s a charity event. With such a strong name attached (Make A Wish), I’d imagine they would’ve been there just to monitor but ultimately left them alone.

deekster_caddy > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 12:17

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Curious if city approvals were required/approved for this event. If so, cops should definitely back off. If not, that could be why they were being dicks. Please note, I am not justifying cops acting like dicks - just theorizing why they might have been so, sometimes it’s good to try to understand from their side _why_ they have chosen to act like dicks.

marshknute > deekster_caddy 09/25/2017 at 12:29

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The official event in Liberty State Park had the requisite permits. Our impromptu photoshoot did not, so the cop could legally issue a ticket.

But that’s where I’d argue the cop should exercise some restraint and consider what kind of example he’s setting. Two cars parked across a deserted service road located at the end of a dead-end road aren’t hurting anyone or damaging any property. Just tell them to please leave and they’ll happily comply because you treated can me like human beings.

Party-vi > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 12:36

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“driving with the flow of traffic on a deserted road with an artificially low speed limit.”

You’re doing a lot of mental gymnastics to not say “they were speeding”.

crowmolly > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 12:39

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I was all set to post about Avenue P and street racing crackdowns in that area until I saw this:

deserted-ass gravel road to nowhere

Gravel, huh? Kind of tough to illegally race then.

marshknute > Party-vi 09/25/2017 at 12:58

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When there’s overwhelming scientific evidence from traffic engineers demonstrating that a speed limit is set dangerously low, it’s hard to have any respect for cops who intentionally disobey their vow to protect public safety.

If the limit isn’t set to the 85th Percentile, then it is set wrong, and every cop who enforces it is a raging dickhead and deserves to go to hell.

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 13:03

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Guess we’re pretty lucky where I am. The cops here don’t just monitor the shows, they participate in them, lol.

Sovande > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 13:21

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Cops don’t write the laws, they enforce them. So speeding, whether silly or not, is against the law. As such, tickets are issued. Stop crying.

Party-vi > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 13:25

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So cops doing their jobs because local/state legislatures aren’t doing theirs are raging dickheads? Man, you speed and get caught, you get a ticket. I doubt they were a hard swallow for any Lamborghini or Porsche owner anyway.

People that whine about a ticket after speeding are like children that taunt a dog until they get bitten, then they cry to mommy and blame the dog for doing what dogs are wont to do.

Top tip for their next outing: maybe this gaggle of super cars shouldn’t, I don’t know, drive over the speed limit because they’re all in loud brightly colored exotic cars.

Sounds like the only people the ruined this event were the ones that brought the heat onto everyone else.

Milky > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 09/25/2017 at 13:31

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Hope it had a V8.

marshknute > Party-vi 09/25/2017 at 13:40

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Cops are also sworn to protect public safety. Many laws, including speed limits, directly conflict with that duty. A cop is betraying both his duty and the Oath of Honor if he enforces those laws.

A good cop wouldn’t have a problem with someone doing 31 in a 25. A bad cop enforces it and wonders why there’s sudden insurmountable hatred for him and his profession, and then wants me to feel sympathy when he says “Blue Lives Matter.”

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > Milky 09/25/2017 at 13:41

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I don’t think there was ever any other option with the Caprice. V8 or order an Impala instead.

Milky > Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy 09/25/2017 at 14:07

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Had to check myself, but currently 8 out of the 18 on auto trader have V6s.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:17

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There’s also discretion in their job.

Sovande > gettingoldercarguy 09/25/2017 at 15:32

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There’s also personal responsibility.

Sovande > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 15:33

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Take that argument to court and see how it holds up.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:37

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No doubt, sounds like the police were being overly zealous. We had a city cop who would wait by parking meters to expire and write a ticket the moment that happened. Several fellow and ex officers complained and his superiors pulled him from the job. Discretion

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:39

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Oh, and judges threw out the tickets. Discretion

Sovande > gettingoldercarguy 09/25/2017 at 15:41

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It all sounds like crying to me. “We were driving over the speed limit and we got a ticket, but the speed limit is stupid.” “We were trespassing and blocking a road, but the road is not busy and there was no traffic.”

If you break the rules and you get caught there are sometimes consequences. Put on your big girl panties and take your lumps.

Sovande > gettingoldercarguy 09/25/2017 at 15:42

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Which is what a judge is for.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:44

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Sure, take your lumps but if you’re telling them not to voice their discontent with the application of law I have to question your value of civil discourse.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:45

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Judges don’t like having their time wasted by overly zealous officers.

Sovande > gettingoldercarguy 09/25/2017 at 15:47

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And if you are telling me that civil discourse involves whining about being issued tickets for speeding when you were, in fact, speeding, then I would go back to my original assertion that this is simply crying.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:49

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The speeding seems legit, cop picking those cars is stupid but whatever. The trespassing is idiotic.

Sovande > gettingoldercarguy 09/25/2017 at 15:50

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Further, the title of the post is “Cops need to stop being dicks at car shows.” The post then goes on to detail a bunch of things that happened not at a car show, but on public roads. WTF is an “artificially low speed limit?”

Camshaft Chris: Skyline/McLaren/Porsche Fanboy > Milky 09/25/2017 at 15:52

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Huh, I never realized that there was a base V6. I’ve only ever heard of them having that 6 liter L77.

gettingoldercarguy > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 15:53

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A limit that exists primarily for revenue generation. When Texas lowered the speed limit on a State highway to appease a private company’s interest in profits for a recently constructed tollway.

marshknute > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 16:09

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I find it hard to believe you wouldn’t whine if you got cited for doing 31 in a 25.

The Powershift in Steve's '12 Ford Focus killed it's TCM (under warranty!) > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 16:10

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>As a cop, your job is to protect and serve, not bully and extort.

>Hudson County, NJ

Oh, you sweet summer child. Don’t you know that just about every element of Hudson County government is out to screw you over?

Sovande > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 16:14

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And I find it hard to believe that this is your response to the police issuing the tickets, but here it is: “I hope all you pigs get diagnosed with terminal cancer.” 

marshknute > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 16:23

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Here’s the result of rigidly enforcing dumb laws without exercising discretion:

http://jalopnik.com/an-ohio-town-made-millions-from-speed-cameras-but-now-i-1792482681

And an artificially low speed limit is a polite way of saying “speed trap,” aka a speed that is set unreasonably low (well below the actual safe speed) that is used exclusively for issuing predatory speeding tickets.

In most states, it’s actually illegal to set up speed traps, but obviously it’s near-impossible to enforce that law when crooked pigs are the ones wearing guns and mace (oops, I mean badges. yeah, badges, that’s what I meant to say).

http://traffic.findlaw.com/traffic-tickets/are-speed-traps-legal-.html

http://www.alternet.org/civil-liberties/speed-trap-town-dissolves-entire-police-dept-after-years-officials-getting-rich

Sovande > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 16:28

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I get it. You are a hardass who wants the people who issue speeding tickets (to people who are speeding no less) to get a terminal disease and die. Your point is well made in the intro paragraph of your post.

marshknute > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 16:28

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I never said I was a nice person.

If he clocked someone going 85 in a 25, then yes, I’d support him for issuing a speeding ticket. But he ticketed someone for going 31 in a 25. On a perfectly clear, sunny, deserted, straight road at the exit of a charity event. He abused his power and destroyed people’s trust in the police force.

So, yeah, it would be pretty satisfying to learn that he gets diagnosed with terminal cancer.

deekster_caddy > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 16:28

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Yup, totally agree. Seems completely harmless, I can’t stand it when they powertrip...

Le Racecar > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 16:43

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I Live in JC. Where was the event?/ will it be happening again?

marshknute > Le Racecar 09/25/2017 at 16:45

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At Liberty State Park. I think they schedule multiple events per year, but I know of at least 4 supercar owners have now been soured on the event thanks to overzealous cops.

Sovande > marshknute 09/25/2017 at 18:22

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The amount of hyperbolic horseshit in this response is amazing. “Destroyed people’s trust in the police force?” He didn’t kill anyone, or abuse his power, he wrote a ticket to a guy who was fucking speeding.

You said this was a charity event for people with terminal cancer while wishing terminal cancer on people. Who hurt you?

Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies > Jordan and the Slowrunner, Boomer Intensifies 09/25/2017 at 18:26

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*sight

marshknute > Sovande 09/25/2017 at 19:14

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“Destroyed people’s trust in the police force?”

Yes. He did. Unequivocally. Any reasonable person would look at the situation (exit of a charity event, on a road with an artificially low limit, with a cop hiding in the bushes , targeting supercars) and immediately conclude that the cops were abusing their power. Nobody thinks it’s dangerous to go 31 on that road. It was a cash grab. Nothing more.

If he was genuinely concerned about dangerous speeders, he would have parked his cruiser in plain view with his lights on. Nobody is going to speed past a cop. Instead, he pulled someone over, creating a 2-car obstacle on a road with not enough shoulder.

What about the trespassers? It’s the cops job to keep unauthorized people out of that service road. But rather than tell them to leave (which gets rid of them in 60 seconds), he decided to DETAIN them for 15 minutes in a restricted area (still blocking the road). Yeah. Protect and serve my ass.

Try to understand that cops don’t need to issue tickets to enforce the law. More often than not, situations can be more effectively resolved with simple warnings. I guarantee the whole “blue lives matter” fiasco wouldn’t exist if cops exercised some restraint and common sense.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Party-vi 10/03/2017 at 17:53

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And a lot of colossal dickishness for wishing terminal cancer on people.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > marshknute 10/03/2017 at 17:55

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I hope all you pigs get diagnosed with terminal cancer.

Not classy, Yo.

marshknute > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 10/03/2017 at 18:26

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I drive a pussy magnet yellow car with stripes and numbers on it. Classy, I am not.

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > marshknute 10/03/2017 at 22:04

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#compensating

Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo > Sovande 10/03/2017 at 22:08

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https://oppositelock.kinja.com/1819121006

This guy is not worth the electrons.

Party-vi > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 10/03/2017 at 23:14

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rule #1

Sovande > Rusty Vandura - www.tinyurl.com/keepoppo 10/04/2017 at 08:13

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Agreed.